19centconstable: (Cereal sounds gross in theory.)
Constable George Crabtree ([personal profile] 19centconstable) wrote2011-12-20 03:21 pm

Case #36: Video

[George looks very sorry to have to admit this, but:]

I thought that was a rather lovely trip, but I still don't understand what Kwanzaa is.

[identity profile] thebestnose.livejournal.com 2011-12-20 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
You know more than me. I still don't know what any of them are. But I do know there are more than one!

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-20 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, well yes. Of course. They're year-round.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Have you got any back home?

[identity profile] thebestnose.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Just Winternox. But there's no real event like these. I didn't know that there were all of these celebrations.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
How do you celebrate this Winternox, then?

[identity profile] expectremorse.livejournal.com 2011-12-20 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
...Kwanzaa?

That's what you had to deal with?

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-20 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Not exactly: it doesn't begin until the 26th, apparently.

[identity profile] expectremorse.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
....Fuck. I don't even know what that is.

[identity profile] expectremorse.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
...Ka-

Boxing day? Is this like a thing? [Is there actual boxing George?]

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
...Yes?


Sorry, what do you mean, a thing?
championoftime: (7.2 - my you are tall)

[personal profile] championoftime 2011-12-21 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's a holiday meant to bring African Americans closer together as a community by representing several of the harvest celebrations of their ancestors.

It's another holiday meant to bring people together, this one created in the 20th century after an unfortunate riotous incident, where the sense of family and personal ideals was necessary.

Anything that draws attention away from violence and hostility is quite a beautiful sentiment, really.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Ah!

But...why not simply celebrate Christmas?
championoftime: (7.2 - whut?)

[personal profile] championoftime 2011-12-21 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Well, for one, not everyone is Christian nor wishes to acknowledge it commercially. For another, it's well timed. Why should it interfere with Christmas if they did wish to celebrate it? One can celebrate more than one holiday.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
But then why doesn't everyone celebrate both Christmas and Kwanzaa?
championoftime: (7.2 - mooooope)

[personal profile] championoftime 2011-12-21 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
Mostly because African Americans, being in a position of frequent social oppression, would not want their holiday to re-purposed for the predominately white upper class. Therefore exploiting their cultural heritage and showing them further disrespect for the sake of personal gain. Christmas is similarly used as marketing promotion, but often it reasoned that there is less at stake with capitalizing on it as a generic winter solstice holiday celebration.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh.

...but...how is it disrespectful to celebrate someone's heritage with them?

And what is a marketing promotion?
championoftime: (7.2 - pondering)

[personal profile] championoftime 2011-12-21 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
It's not disrespectful if you're invited to celebrate with them. But doing so without their permission is extremely invasive. An open festival is one thing. Lantern lightings, tulip festivals, Oktoberfest. But some holidays are deeply personal and it's simply more polite to be asked to participate. Especially when it's symbolic kinship, brought about by cultural exclusion and overcoming adversity with others of similar backgrounds.

Marketing promotion is where you sell a product under the guise of it being related to an event, place, object, or individual. Frequently rather than celebrating what it is intended to celebrate, the product makers only wish for financial gain.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
People do that to Christmas?
championoftime: (7.2 - always looking upwards)

[personal profile] championoftime 2011-12-21 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
There is a reason that it is so widely resented anymore. Especially by those aboard that have no reason to celebrate it, yet are forced to by the conditions of the ship. Just as they're forced to be here. They've no reason to see the optimism that should come hand in hand with the holiday.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That's awful. Surely there's something we can do?
championoftime: (7.2 - 7)

[personal profile] championoftime 2011-12-21 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It never hurts to request people to celebrate the holidays with you. On a more personal level.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
That's certainly simple enough. I might have done anyway.
championoftime: (7.2 - arm around ace)

[personal profile] championoftime 2011-12-22 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Splendid! You're already doing well by the holidays then.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-22 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
It is the most wonderful time of the year.

[And if there is a popular song with similar lyrics, George is unaware.]
strangehistorian: (the helpful)

[personal profile] strangehistorian 2011-12-21 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's an adaptation of an African harvest festival, celebrated from Dec- Oh!

The Doctor seems to have covered it.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It's quite alright. Some of it remains over my head, I'm afraid.
strangehistorian: (the confused D:)

[personal profile] strangehistorian 2011-12-22 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well, all I know about it I read in the Encyclopedia Britannica.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-22 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't aware they made those in dragon size.
strangehistorian: (the helpful)

[personal profile] strangehistorian 2011-12-22 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
That's why my humanoid form is so convenient!

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-22 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah.

[George is slightly disappointed. Dragon-sized, flame retardant books sound excellent.]

Do you miss dragon...ing?
strangehistorian: (the helpful)

[personal profile] strangehistorian 2011-12-22 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I do fly around in the CES!

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-22 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, congratulations!

...

Would you allow me to ask an inappropriate question?
strangehistorian: (the confused D:)

[personal profile] strangehistorian 2011-12-24 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes. But you'll understand if I may or may not answer.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-24 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course.

Um. When you...you know...what becomes of your clothing?
strangehistorian: (the helpful)

[personal profile] strangehistorian 2011-12-27 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, the clothing is just part of the illusion. I can turn up wearing whatever I can conjure, really, and it vanishes with the rest of the form.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
So then, you're actually...

[Nuuuuuuuudity.]
strangehistorian: (the clever)

[personal profile] strangehistorian 2011-12-28 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
The clothes are as real as any of it.

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-12-28 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry?